I graduated with a BA in political science in 2002. For the past six years, I have worked in marketing and pr. I’m a decent writer and pretty good at what I do – especially online marketing. I have also taken grad classes in writing and have a 4.0
Recently, my company announced a new job opening for a conference series writer. Since I already do the marketing for the conference series and understand how desperately they need someone who can write to market the conference (marketing copy v technical writing are very, very different and should not be intertwined!), I threw my name into the mix.
I talked to my boss, and she gave me really positive feedback by basically saying, “You’d be perfect for the job. In fact, people have already asked me if I thought you’d be interested.” Plus, I’d still report to the same boss, so it wouldn’t be that big of a change…just a better job, the chance to travel, and the opportunity to really help out this conference series.
HR scheduled the 5 rounds of interviews and added them to my corporate calendar. But, as it turns out, someone at my company really didn’t want me to get that job. Or even interview for it.
The job description states education requirements as: Bachelor’s degree in public relations, corporate communications, marketing communication, journalism, technical communication, English, or equivalent.
Well, my boss’s boss, for a reason I now believe to be he has someone in mind for the job, decided that since my degree is not in English or writing, I should be bullied out of even interviewing for the job. Apparently, he doesn’t understand the definition of “equivalent.”
How it went down was like this (I pieced this together after talking to several people who knew about the situation) – my boss’s boss, who we’ll call Fisher, called my boss into his office. He basically told her that she had to talk me out of interviewing for the job because I was not qualified since I only have a BA in political science. My boss didn’t want to do it, but did it anyway. And let me tell you how fun that was…to sit in a meeting with someone who you have liked and respected for the past 14 months and have her tell you these things about how unqualified I am to write since I was not formally educated in writing. (Funny how part of my job is writing, and they don’t seem to have a problem with that.)
I don’t know if Fisher understands what a political science degree entails, but all I did in college was write – papers, essays, arguments, etc. And to this day, through multiple job searches and interviews, no one else has ever questioned the legitimacy of my degree (which is from a pretty good school, I might add). In fact, it has mostly helped me in my career – successful political science majors are thought to have excellent communication skills and comprehensive and accurate research skills – among other things.
Besides, my degree isn’t the only thing I’ve ever done – but do you think Fisher ever asked me about my prior experience or accomplishments? No.
So, I backed out of interviewing for the job. It was quite the scandal at work for a week or so. The person doing the hiring wanted me for the job. So did the people who the “writer” will work very closely with.
Work can be so political sometimes.
11 responses so far ↓
Nora // June 27, 2008 at 7:40 pm |
A pretty good school?! Try the 9th best public institution in the country! Holler.
Lesley // June 27, 2008 at 7:50 pm |
As a fellow Poli Sci major at the same great institution(same year too), I completely empathize with you!! The sad thing is most of these people who turn their noses up at a poli sci degree could probably never have passed one semester with Lisa Nelson!!
Katie // June 30, 2008 at 1:49 pm |
This is absolutely ridiculous! For the most part, I have found that it’s the fact that you have a degree, not what it’s in, that’s important. Having been a music major undergrad, I totally understand your experience of people not realizing what is required of majors with which they are unfamiliar. I’ve honestly had people say things like, “What do you know? You had to just sing the ABC’s for your finals.” To which, I generally respond, “No, bitch! I had to be proficient in two foreign languages, take diction for 4 languages, sing a junior and senior recital incorporating at least 3 languages and time periods (I went for 4 each for good measure), take up through music theory and aural comprehension 4, pass a comprehensive (one of 2 high passes my semester), AND take all of the general liberal arts classes that everyone at the university has to take! Oh, and I minored in communications,so with all of my performance classes, music classes, liberal arts requirements, and comm classes, I rarely took fewer than 18 credits per semester. Keep in mind this was at a school that is always in the top 30 overall and has been called one of the “new ivys.” But, this isn’t about me…it’s about you, and I feel like you need to lodge some kind of complaint with HR or something. This is terrible business practice and, essentially, a form of discrimination. At the very least, please let me prank call this guy…I promise to *67!
Nora // July 17, 2008 at 5:24 pm |
this is the enlightening email I got today, couldn’t resist: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB121623686919059307-lMyQjAxMDI4MTE2NzIxMzc2Wj.html
Who stole my 20’s? « Memoirs of a Modernista // July 24, 2008 at 4:39 pm |
[...] my career for example. As I mentioned before, I majored in political science. I chose this major because I was going to be a foreign ambassador and speak several different [...]
Pete // August 31, 2008 at 7:33 pm |
Normally i think that Political Science Degrees are useless, but what do I know as I have an Engineering degree and the path seems clearer to a career there for me.
In any case, you have real world experience and that should really trump what specific degree you have.
Mr. T // February 2, 2009 at 4:16 am |
Katie,
I feel your pain with the music degree. I was put out to pasture and can’t get decent job because I a friggin music degree. Plus I am an old fart. I asm probaly old enough to be your dad or grandparent. And the last comment in the first post “Work can be so politcal sometimes…” are you kidding me? It’s always political – it’s always boss of the week time. Anytime you can stick it to these types without them ever knowing, good! It’s a;ways the same wherever you go: What do they have on you? Does your neck have a pulled muscle from looking over your shoulder all day? People are real bastards, especially when they have power, any age, any gender, any color. Life really sucks that way. Now that I have cheered you all up, have a nice freakin’ day, and leave a bag of shit on your boss’s boss’ chair. Squish! hahahaha!
Than // July 21, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
The entire interview process in USA is rigged. It IS ALWAYS POLITICAL. Rather, than hiring on substance and merit, it is based on nepotism, cronyism, buddyism, and having the right last name. Many times those “interviews”/”auditions” are scams, they already know who they want. It is just a hoop jumping contest, for mere show. Those employers/bossess will terry nickell dime you every which way they can. The american ‘work’ place is a joke, filled mostly with work-addicted baby boomers, three ring binder metrosexuals, and acronyms for corporate BS. Most work is a form of controlled dying.
Pcube // September 2, 2009 at 1:53 pm |
Judging by “Mr. T’s” brilliant and well written response, I have concluded that Music majors are now of the same caliber as road workers mixing concrete.
Sorry, I’m being harsh…
… to the concrete mixers.
ALTing // October 31, 2009 at 3:46 pm |
Hey there Ms. Modernista,
I don’t know you at all! Nay, I but stumbled across your blog by chance. I’m a fledgling twenty-something ‘09 graduate with a PoliSci B.A. and a 3.7 GPA with a flair for writing, and am currently looking for a career in marketing and PR.
Yet, despite an entire pageful of resume goodness (no chumpy internships here, no ma’am, I mean years of real, hard-won experience!) I just can’t seem to land a decent job. Recession be damned, yes, but there’s /got/ to be a way to get ahead here.
It might be unconventional of me to ask in a random blog of all places, but (I’ve never been the most conventional of people and) you sound like someone who’s already walked a long way down the path I’m looking for. What might I be missing here? Is NYC just the wrong place to be? Should I send cupcakes with every resume? Should I invent a way to attach rainbows to emails?
I guess it can’t hurt to ask, right? : )
modernista // December 12, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
I haven’t been checking the blog…my apologies. I completely feel your pain and wish I had the magic answer. I like the idea of sending cupcakes with resumes…definitely would make me take a second look…but I guess that’s not too practical. My best advice (which isn’t anything you haven’t heard a million other places) is to keep trying. Know what type of job or career you want to build and don’t let anything get in the way. But, at the same time have an open mind and be flexible…there are a lot of different paths that can lead you to the right place
And network. Find a mentor. Blah blah blah. Believe in yourself though – b/c if you don’t no one else will!